An
Exclusive ConvoyTM Q & A
(Interview) with Franklyn Ajaye
(Spider Mike)
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Q: Who
contacted you for the role
(casting director Lynn Stalmaster?) or did you apply for it?
A: I was represented by the ICM agency at the time, and my agent set up
the audtion/meeting with Sam Peckinpah at his office in Beverly Hills.
Q: When were you
contacted or apply?
(Filming was found to have taken
place between April-September 1977).
A: I don't exactly remember but I know we started filming within a
month.
[Truck Driving]
Q: How much actual truck
driving did
you do?
A: I drove whenever the shot required slow driving, and a stunt man
Mike Olney drove when high speed driving was required as I didn't feel
confident in handling it.
Q: Did you know how to
drive a truck
or took training? Did you have any
problems with your truck?
A: I had to learn to drive a truck, and because my character was poor,
I had the worst truck with a troublesome gearbox. My truck
was
old and the mechanics were just trying to keep it going.
Q: Do you remember the
model of truck
you were in?
A: Don't remember the model of the truck.
Q: (Do you remember)What
was it your
truck was scripted to haul?
A: I don't recall what I supposed to be hauling. I don't
think it
was ever mentioned.
Q: Were you, (all),
actually talking
to each other thru cb's or was
that propped somehow?
A: As I remember we actually were talking to each other on the CB's.
Q: Who titled your
character "Spider
Mike" or was that just in the
script? (Did you know in BWL Norton's book and script your
character
was called "Motor Mike.")
A: Spider Mike was the name of my character in the script that I had.
Q: Apparently your
character would be
seen/become a racial plot in the
movie vs "Dirty Lyle" (Ernest Borgnine). Was this Director Sam
Peckinpah's idea, part of the script and did you have a problem with it
at all?
A: Everything about the subplot was in the script as written, and I had
no problem with any of it.
Q: In the "Diner Brawl"
you smash a
ketchup bottle over the state
trooper's hand. How was that done?
A: The ketchup battle was a breakaway bottle so it wouldn't cause harm
to the guy I hit.
Q: Your character leaves
the convoy
to go home, learning assumably on
the cb, his wife is about to give birth. Do you know why your character
was written to leave early the movie or was it due to it leading to the
jail break scene?
A: My leaving the convoy early was to set up the jail break scene.
Q: If you remember, talk
about the
make up of the apparent beating you
took from Tiny Alverez.
A: The make up for the beating took 45 minutes a day to do.
What
was funny was that when were filiming those scenes, when we had to
lunch I had to go to the cafe in the small town and eat looking like
that, and some of the patrons were taken aback at the sight.
Q: Did you mind, having
to leave half
way into the movie and not
appearing in the finale?
A: No, I didn't mind my character leaving the convoy early as I was
there for the whole three month shoot. I was just happy to be
working in a major movie
Q: Did you enjoy your
time/role in
the movie?
A: I thoroughly enjoyed my time on the movie. I
felt that I
grew a lot as an actor as I was working with such accomplished actors
as Ernest Borgnine, Burt Young, and Madge Sinclair who had all won or
been nominated for Oscars and Emmys--so I could watch the way they
worked. Ernest Borgnine had everything thoroughly prepared
even
down to the smallest gesture which he would repeat at the exact moment
every taike, while Burt Young would always do something different each
take. It was great to see that contrast in working styles in
two
such successful actors. I was rather shy, so I didn't
socialize
as much as I
could've, but Kris Kristofferson, and Ally McGraw were very kind and
made me wish that I had stepped out of my shell more at the
time.
Sam Peckinpah was somewhat intimidating at first, but he liked my work,
but I didn't like the callous way that he treated his hard working
crew. Over the course of the filming 65 members of the crew
rebelled and quit, so there was a constant influx of new
people.
I also liked being on location in Albuquergue and the whole "location
experience". It was a very freeing time--almost like a paid
vacation. But I consider it a great experience.
Q: Among all the
theatrical movies
you appear in, how does Convoy rank
in your opinion?
A: As a film I found "Convoy" to be pretty lacking due to a weak script
and was surprised to find out that it was ultimately Peckinpah's
highest grossing movie. I certainly don't think that it ranks
with his past notable films, as it was pretty obvious that he was no
longer working at the top of his game.
Q: What was your opinion
on director
Sam Peckinpah and his control of
this particular movie.
A: He was in bad shape physically after all the years of
self-destructive hard living and not artistically sharp.
Q: I have two different
stories on
this. When Black Widow's (Madge
Sinclair) truck over turned, was that planned or an accident?
A: To be honest I don't recall whether it was an accident or
planned. I vaguely remember it as an accident.
Q: Much of the
book/script by Bill
Norton appeared to have been
rewritten by director Sam Peckinpah. Was it noticeable that Peckinpah was rewriting
all thru
filming.
A: No it wasn't noticeable that Sam was rewriting, as my part didn't
change at all during the shooting. But the script
definitely need a lot of work as the story was very thin--being that it
was based on a song.
Q: Kris Kristofferson
said, years ago
in an online interview, he was
not happy with "Spending four months in a cab of a truck but did the
movie as a favor to Sam," Did you notice this from Kristofferson or
others?
A: Kris kept to himself a lot during the filming but he was always
affable. He's not a temperamental guy at all, and was very
uncomfortable with the whole concept of the stardom that he was
experiencing due to "A Star Is Born". I wish I'd gotten to
know
him better. Near the end of filming I had a long conversation
with him in his trailer which was very enjoyable.
Q: It was also said the
movie went
over budget, over due on scheduled
filming and Peckinpah's drinking/drugs were heavy, did you notice any this?
A: Sam seemed to have a willful disregard for budget and the studio's
wishes. The fight scene in the cafe was supposed to take a
couple
of days, but ended taking at least two weeks to film. Why, I
don't know. Sam was capricious and truculent, and the crew
was
scared of him. But he treated the actors fine. I
know he
was supposed to be off the drinking and drugs for health reasons due to
doctor's orders--though I don't think he
did.
Q: Do you stay in
contact with the
others stars, Kris Kristofferson,
Ali MacGraw, Burt Young, Ernest Borgnine, Seymour Cassel or others?
A: No I haven't seen or talked to any of them since the movie
ended. I liked them all, it's just that our paths haven't
crossed
since then.